DUST Search - goodbye to our Russia players?

axINVICTUSxa wrote:

Have you visited my homeland in the past, Paul? No? Do not, then, insult my homeland without having first seen it. Meanwhile, having lived in both Russia and now, currently in California, perhaps I can enlighten you against what the AP, or "Associated Propaganda" has been trying to brainwash you with.

And by the way, before anyone calls me out about AP being Associated Press and not Associated Propaganda, I'm trying to make a point.

First of all, Paul, I do not know what tier of life you were born into, but I was born into the Russian middle class. I had a sponsored, hard-earned education and while my compatriots often spoke only two languages--Russian and English--I had the chance and did learn English, Russian, French, and German, and since then I have added Chinese and Spanish to the list. I don't know about you, but I will guess that you only read English news. I read four different sets of news, from four different nations. I CHOOSE to be educated, I CHOOSE to know what is truly going on, and I CHOOSE to SEE PAST THE PROPAGANDA the respective nations are allowing their newspresses to release.

I have had the oppurtunity to graduate from MGU with honors,

Please pardon me if I may sound critical of you but perhaps what draws ire against Russian people is our brutally frank attitude--if we see someone acting like an idiot, we point that out to him. But by no means am I calling you one. Instead, far from it. I feel that the term idiot is too good a term, and it would be a misnomer for you.

I do see that you say, "I can't, with any logic, support them in any way at all."

I can't, with any logic, support the fact that you have logic in the first place just noting your illogical statement. If that isn't paradoxical enough, what is?

Here. Just a sample of Putin's speech in adress to Crimea issue. I understand you probably cannot understand Russian, otherwise I would have given you RIA's version. The translation here is good enough:
http://rt.com/news/putin-address-ten-quotes-778/

This is the difference between America and Russia, as I have found out while living in California. Here is America, Americans cater to the minority despite the suffering of the majority. This is obvious through the ill-planned-fascist-attempt-at-socialism called Obamacare.

In Russia, we can only be moved by the majority. That is why we help Crimea, because 60% of Crimea is Russian and that is something Putin cannot ignore.

Honestly, this is a good video as well:
Ukraine Nationalist Speech

You probably don't understand Russian or Ukrainian, but this "Nationalist" is saying that Russians in Ukraine should die, be shot in the head, and all that jazz. Of course, our Western, "Associated Propaganda" which is trying to portray Ukraine and its Revolutionary Government as the good guys, would not publish such videos.

After watching it is it any surprise that most Russian-speaking and Russian Crimeans would call to Putin for aid?

It is quite simple to illustrate to you and all the Double-Standard taken here by the United Nations and US:

1) Afghanistan, Iraq, Kuwait wars "against Terrorism." Approved of by the UN. What did America want? Oil. Did we get it? Oh yes.

vs.

Russia enters Dagestan, Chechnya, Georgia "against Terrorism" Draws international IRE and disproval by the UN What were we after? No doubt there was economic interests in this region as well, but let us not forget that these "states" are on OUR Southern Borders. It is that much easier to cross into Southern Russia and carry out Terrorist Activity. Can America say the same about Iraq, Afghanistan, and Kuwait?

Ukrainian DEMOCRATICALLY-ELECTED President Yanukovich overthrown by way of revolution and replaced. New Ukrainian Government and overthrow deemed legal, and New Ukraine is recognized by the UN.

Russia gains Crimea through legal vote, deemed illegal and illegitimate by UN. What about the New Ukraine Government? Is overthrowing legitimate governments legal? No.

Please note several things:
Crimea given to Ukraine in 1954 by Nikita Kruschev, a UKRAINIAN-ethnic leader of the USSR. At this time it was ok, because Ukraine was part of the USSR, and the USSR answered to Moscow. But in 1991, Crimeans found themselves suddenly "Ukrainians." Couple that with live video threats and Ukrainian-nationalist speeches to get rid of Russians in Ukraine, if I lived in Crimea I would be calling out to the motherland for help as well.

If you have any more of your "logic" to show me, I welcome it by all means.
I know that by speaking my opinion here in America and amongst the English forums I draw the ire of all of the "international community."

I welcome that. I welcome the risks that come with free speech like this.

I await your response.

Until then, I apologize for the hot-bloodedness of my speech and the offense it may have caused any of you who read my speech,

Sincerely,
Dmitri Chuikov (axINVICTUSxa)

Most tankers are like sand people. They frighten easily, but will quickly return...and in greater numbers.


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Zahle Undt Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 1065	Posted - 2014.03.21 23:42:00 - [1] - Quote axINVICTUSxa wrote: Have you visited my homeland in the past, Paul? No? Do not, then, insult my homeland without having first seen it. Meanwhile, having lived in both Russia and now, currently in California, perhaps I can enlighten you against what the AP, or "Associated Propaganda" has been trying to brainwash you with. And by the way, before anyone calls me out about AP being Associated Press and not Associated Propaganda, I'm trying to make a point. First of all, Paul, I do not know what tier of life you were born into, but I was born into the Russian middle class. I had a sponsored, hard-earned education and while my compatriots often spoke only two languages--Russian and English--I had the chance and did learn English, Russian, French, and German, and since then I have added Chinese and Spanish to the list. I don't know about you, but I will guess that you only read English news. I read four different sets of news, from four different nations. I CHOOSE to be educated, I CHOOSE to know what is truly going on, and I CHOOSE to SEE PAST THE PROPAGANDA the respective nations are allowing their newspresses to release. I have had the oppurtunity to graduate from MGU with honors, Please pardon me if I may sound critical of you but perhaps what draws ire against Russian people is our brutally frank attitude--if we see someone acting like an idiot, we point that out to him. But by no means am I calling you one. Instead, far from it. I feel that the term idiot is too good a term, and it would be a misnomer for you. I do see that you say, "I can't, with any logic, support them in any way at all." I can't, with any logic, support the fact that you have logic in the first place just noting your illogical statement. If that isn't paradoxical enough, what is? Here. Just a sample of Putin's speech in adress to Crimea issue. I understand you probably cannot understand Russian, otherwise I would have given you RIA's version. The translation here is good enough: http://rt.com/news/putin-address-ten-quotes-778/ This is the difference between America and Russia, as I have found out while living in California. Here is America, Americans cater to the minority despite the suffering of the majority. This is obvious through the ill-planned-fascist-attempt-at-socialism called Obamacare. In Russia, we can only be moved by the majority. That is why we help Crimea, because 60% of Crimea is Russian and that is something Putin cannot ignore. Honestly, this is a good video as well: Ukraine Nationalist Speech You probably don't understand Russian or Ukrainian, but this "Nationalist" is saying that Russians in Ukraine should die, be shot in the head, and all that jazz. Of course, our Western, "Associated Propaganda" which is trying to portray Ukraine and its Revolutionary Government as the good guys, would not publish such videos. After watching it is it any surprise that most Russian-speaking and Russian Crimeans would call to Putin for aid? It is quite simple to illustrate to you and all the Double-Standard taken here by the United Nations and US: 1) Afghanistan, Iraq, Kuwait wars "against Terrorism." Approved of by the UN. What did America want? Oil. Did we get it? Oh yes. vs. Russia enters Dagestan, Chechnya, Georgia "against Terrorism" Draws international IRE and disproval by the UN What were we after? No doubt there was economic interests in this region as well, but let us not forget that these "states" are on OUR Southern Borders. It is that much easier to cross into Southern Russia and carry out Terrorist Activity. Can America say the same about Iraq, Afghanistan, and Kuwait? Ukrainian DEMOCRATICALLY-ELECTED President Yanukovich overthrown by way of revolution and replaced. New Ukrainian Government and overthrow deemed legal, and New Ukraine is recognized by the UN. Russia gains Crimea through legal vote, deemed illegal and illegitimate by UN. What about the New Ukraine Government? Is overthrowing legitimate governments legal? No. Please note several things: Crimea given to Ukraine in 1954 by Nikita Kruschev, a UKRAINIAN-ethnic leader of the USSR. At this time it was ok, because Ukraine was part of the USSR, and the USSR answered to Moscow. But in 1991, Crimeans found themselves suddenly "Ukrainians." Couple that with live video threats and Ukrainian-nationalist speeches to get rid of Russians in Ukraine, if I lived in Crimea I would be calling out to the motherland for help as well. If you have any more of your "logic" to show me, I welcome it by all means. I know that by speaking my opinion here in America and amongst the English forums I draw the ire of all of the "international community." I welcome that. I welcome the risks that come with free speech like this. I await your response. Until then, I apologize for the hot-bloodedness of my speech and the offense it may have caused any of you who read my speech, Sincerely, Dmitri Chuikov (axINVICTUSxa) I could respect your opinion, until you called Obamacare fascism. Its just one issue and we can debate its merits and demerits but to call it fascism is either hyperbole taken to ridiculous heights or shows no understanding of what fascism is. Anyway, as far as Crimea, its none of my business, not my corner of the world. I don't care enough to inform myself enough to form an opinion. I don't think the UN has the power nor the ability to cut Russia off from the internet either so I doubt losing our Russian players because of sanctions is a worry. Most tankers are like sand people. They frighten easily, but will quickly return...and in greater numbers.
Zahle Undt Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 1077	Posted - 2014.03.22 21:06:00 - [2] - Quote @Baal you should join BCG pub channel and squad up with Volgair and I sometime, if I can get him back on Dust ever. We have some fun discussions of history and politics while grinding pubs. Since the thread devolved into a discussion of American politics, can you imagine what the Republican party of today would day about Eisenhower. They call Obama a socialist, to them that old school republican would be some sort of communist nightmare Most tankers are like sand people. They frighten easily, but will quickly return...and in greater numbers.